Harry Potter

[rikkublossom]

Not sure if there should be a separate thread for the movies and books but hey, never mind. This is for all your Harry Potter related discussions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EC2tmFVNNE

The official Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows trailer.
Can not wait for this movie although i've been disappointed with all the movies so far, especially the 6th one.

[Viper718]

I can't wait for Deathly Hallows just because I loved the book. I am hoping that, since they're splitting it into two movies, that it will be awesomely epic. It might not be...but I am still hoping...

[rikkublossom]

The trailer has excited me more then any of the others. Hopefully they can do it right this time.
As far as i'm concerned all the films after the third should have been split in two, although i know that might mean the actors would be about 25 when the finished lol.

[Viper718]

Prisoner of Askaban was my favorite book, and I never felt the movie did it justice, but I did still enjoy the movie.

[Firestorm]

are we talking about the movie or the book. Well, since I don't read the novels, so I guess I'll be talking about the movie then.

All I can say is that, I can't wait to watch the latest movie simply because they are making two movies out of one novel. It should be interesting. I agree with Viper, the Prisoner of Azkaban frustrates me a bit, though I didn't read the novel.

[Viper718]

are we talking about the movie or the book. Well, since I don't read the novels, so I guess I'll be talking about the movie then.

All I can say is that, I can't wait to watch the latest movie simply because they are making two movies out of one novel. It should be interesting. I agree with Viper, the Prisoner of Azkaban frustrates me a bit, though I didn't read the novel.

You have no idea what you're missing. the movie does it no justice at all. While the movie was good, the book was 400x better.

[Firestorm]

Thick novels frighten me :w00t:. The first impression makes me not wanting to read it. But once I got started, the fear brushes away. I guess that's why I never read the novel. Maybe in the future XD

[Viper718]

But none of the Harry potter books are thick.

Also, it's not a novel, it's a book.

Novel - a fictitious prose narrative of considerable length and complexity, portraying characters and usually presenting a sequential organization of action and scenes.

Harry Potter isn't long enough to be considered a novel unless you put 2-3 books together.

:)

[Firestorm]

My bad, I guess my wrong choice of words. But thanks for the correction though XD.

OT: I heard Rowling is considering of continuing the book. Don't know if it's true or not.

[Cromell]

Loved the books, never really cared about the movies... always used my own imagination, really XD

Also, HP movies in Poland came with horrible (professional, yes, but horrible in my opinion) dubbing, that made the movies unacceptably childish... especially first three of them. Always had to wait for DVDs, so I could choose the english audio XD

About the trailer: this looks pretty epic, really. I'll probably want to see it.

[rikkublossom]

Prisoner of Askaban was my favorite book, and I never felt the movie did it justice, but I did still enjoy the movie.

They left out all the back story between Prongs, padfoot, Moony and Wormtail.
If you just watched the movies you don't really get the sense of just how much these people were friends and what they meant to each other (so why Peters betrayal was all the more, can't think of the word) and why Snape hates them so much.
That's what i think anyway.


OT: I heard Rowling is considering of continuing the book. Don't know if it's true or not.

She was thinking of writing a encyclopedia of the Harry Potter world for charity. She wrote out back story and little plot lines for characters that just didn't make it into the books, like Dean Thomas, Harry's friend who's said to be muggle born but JK. Rowling said she had wanted him to discover the truth about his father at some point. He was a wizard who was killed by Death Eaters, but this got cut.

I'm not sure when it'll be out. Could be years, could be many years, could be next month.

Loved the books, never really cared about the movies... always used my own imagination, really XD

That's the problem with these movies. I have no real problems imagining places the way i first thought of them but now i can't get the screen characters out of my mind when i read it. Can't remember how i first imagined them to look.

Did anyone else have a favourite character. Mine was always Snape. Don't know why.
When he killed Dumbledore i though he must be evil but i just couldn't wrap my head round it.
And how weird is it

That people guessed that he loved Lilly Potter even though there was not even a tiny shred of evidence for it before book 7.
Kinda bummed when he died, wanted him to live. But dying while looking into Harry's eyes because they were Lilly's is kinda touching

Put that in a spoiler for those that have only seen the movies and not the book, although to be honest i bet everyone knows what happens anyway.

[Andrew Scaves]

But none of the Harry potter books are thick.


You know that's a lie.

Also not looking forward to the last two movies. I'm not going to fall for it after about 5 bad movies in a row, maybe 4.


Harry Potter isn't long enough to be considered a novel unless you put 2-3 books together.

Are you even a writer? A novel is any work of fiction that's longer than a novella. By the industry standards it's at least 71,000 words, but a good bit of the community considers it at least 41,000 words or probably more accurately at least 50,000 or 80,000 words.

[Ryojin]

^ That. The books can be called novels.

I started rereading the series from book 1. I'm gonna have to skip the book I don't have, which I think is book 3, though.

As for the films? I'll pass. The rest were shitty, why should the next ones be any different?

[Nudi_Alf]

Finally they decide to split a film into two parts... they should have done that since Chamber of Secrets.. I really hope it will be worth it then, stopped seing the movies after the 4th one...

[rikkublossom]

The earlier one's stuck more closely to the books but the child actors can't act. The later one's the actors can act but the directors have cocked them up.

They try and add drama, it's Harry Potter, they don't need any more drama.

[wedgeman]

I stopped watching the flicks after Goblet of Fire.

They're really screwing it over.

[Andrew Scaves]

Finally they decide to split a film into two parts... they should have done that since Chamber of Secrets

I differ Chamber of Secrets is short. I say probably Goblet of Fire at the earliest.

[Nudi_Alf]

I differ Chamber of Secrets is short. I say probably Goblet of Fire at the earliest.

I ment they should have done it AFTER Chamber of Secrets.. So that we could have been told about Harry's father and friends past, in Prisoner of Azkhaban..

[Aggy]

Probably should've commented on this sooner.

I'm a bit of a fan of the series. Not excessively so, I read the books and watch the films. XD The books I loved until a friend pointed out their flaws, degrading them to a 'like' level. I've enjoyed the films up until Goblet, where it all seemed to go downhill. However, previews of Films 7 and 8 look promising. I mean, seriously. I don't think I've ever been so excited for a Harry Potter film in yeaaaars.

About that eight book everyone's been on about, she did write a prequel (which can be found online) but stressed that she wasn't putting any more into it. Good for her. She's decided on a finish line and she's sticking to it.

[rikkublossom]

You mean that one with James and Sirius and the police men. It was only really short, can you really call it a prequel (or am i missing a book here)

Edit: I'm sure she was pretty definite about the encyclopedia though. It'll just take time.

[DesertFox]

Can not wait for this movie although i've been disappointed with all the movies so far, especially the 6th one.

I actually found each movie to be better than the last. The sixth was really good, although quite cheesy at times.

I can't wait for the first half as well; good strategy to split the book into 2 movies. Thoughts on where the cliffhanger will be?

[rikkublossom]

Have you read the books. HP 6 left out so much, it only mentioned the Half Blood Prince about twice and you saw barely any of Voldemort's memories, pretty weird since they were such an important plot point.

They contracted solely on the love aspects of the books and the stupidness.


I'm sure i heard some where that the cut off point was when Voldemort opens Dumbledore's coffin, although i'm not so sure myself because that would leave a whole 1.30/2 hour movie as just the fight for Hogwarts.
I wonder if the trailer is showing footage from both films or just the first part.

[DesertFox]

Have you read the books. HP 6 left out so much, it only mentioned the Half Blood Prince about twice and you saw barely any of Voldemort's memories, pretty weird since they were such an important plot point.

I'm sure i heard some where that the cut off point was when Voldemort opens Dumbledore's coffin, although i'm not so sure myself because that would leave a whole 1.30/2 hour movie as just the fight for Hogwarts.
I wonder if the trailer is showing footage from both films or just the first part.
Yes, I did all the books, but am not a hugely buff Harry Potter fan, so my remembrance is little of what was in each book.

I thought it was good, I mean what did you expect them to cut off from a +600 page book? They had enough about Voldermont's past to make it work and I thought they worked the HB Price in really well. Just opinions though.

And for the cliffhanger, that indeed would be a nice cliffhanger, and you're right in the fact that the battle for Hogwarts will only be 1.5 hours or so, but hey, that makes the first movie nearly 3 hours :)

[Andrew Scaves]

I was thinking the cut off point would be SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER when Ron left the group.

[rikkublossom]

It all depends on which movie they're showing in the trailer, both or just the first, because if you notice there are some scenes that look like the parents and others storming Hogwarts and you see Voldemort at Dumbledore's tomb, which of course both occur after Ron leaving.

I just can't imagine them cutting the film off that late though, i don't think there's enough story from the battle of Hogwarts to fill a whole film, but then again they have the epilogue to show as well.

[Ryojin]

Even with the epilogue, there isn't that much after that point... I don't think that it would be enough for an entire movie...

[rikkublossom]

Found this, don't know if it's right but it suggests that the cut off point is the Snatchers catching Harry Hermione and Ron.

Edit: i suppose the link would help lol.
http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=13987

[DesertFox]

Not to mention the film or anything, but I kinda hated the epilogue.

Sure, I know who was supposed to go with who (didn't want to give it away), but I felt like it should have been this guy with the other girl (props to those who can read my mind). I thought they were cuter :x

[Ryojin]

I felt the whole epilogue was unnecessary, to be honest...

[Nudi_Alf]

I hope that they reserve a whole movie for the fight on hogwarts... Or else I think that the 7th movie will be really dissappointing..

[rikkublossom]

but I felt like it should have been this guy with the other girl (props to those who can read my mind). I thought they were cuter :x

Sorry i can't read your mind.

The books needed an epilogue i think. I wanted to know what happened to Harry after the battle of Hogwarts. That's a measure of J.K.Rowlings talents that you could care so much for someone who doesn't exists lol.

Don't know what the hell happened to the names though, i know the names in the series were always a bit weird but seriously. Draco's kid made me laugh.

[Ryojin]

I say that it's unnecessary for one reason: The book still would have been complete had it not been there. There wasn't really anything left to say. I didn't have any particular need to know what their lives were like after all that time had passed.

[rikkublossom]

I guess we just won't agree on this point then lol, because i would never have felt right not to know.

Plus i've been reading these books properly since i was about 14 or so. I do remember being asked to read the first chapter at about 11 years old in an English class, then we were asked to think up ideas of a gadget we would want to invent. I actually thought the first chapter was boring back then.
I finished reading the last one a day after it was released in 2007.

I felt it was necessary to have a proper ending to it after all those years invested in the HP world. It was just nice to know what happened to Harry next, after all you followed him through school, his first kiss, his first love and watched him grow in the series. Why not carry on a little more.

[Ryojin]

Heh... I've been following the series since my sister introduced it to me when I was 10 or 11. The last book I actually pre-ordered. I remember sitting at the bookstore with her waiting to get picked up after getting the book.

As for your 'proper ending' sentence... Take the epilogue out of the book, and it still has a proper ending. Had it never been written, the book and it's series would still be complete. To be honest, I felt that the only reason it was written was so that nobody else could take over the series and do their own thing with it.

[DesertFox]

Sorry i can't read your mind.

I was talking about Harry and Hermione. I found them much cuter together than Ron and Hermione ever was.

[Ryojin]

Is that even a spoiler anymore? I mean, after book/movie 4, it's rather obvious that it's gonna end up that way... XD

[rikkublossom]

Okay so this post contains spoilers and i can't be bothered to use the tags. Don't know the ending, don't read.


I was talking about Harry and Hermione. I found them much cuter together than Ron and Hermione ever was.

No way, Harry was always destined for one woman lol.

As for your 'proper ending' sentence... Take the epilogue out of the book, and it still has a proper ending. Had it never been written, the book and it's series would still be complete. To be honest, I felt that the only reason it was written was so that nobody else could take over the series and do their own thing with it.

Actually she had that ending written before she even finished the last book, if i'm recalling right she had it written at the same time as the first book.
She said that through most of the series the ending had never changed, and the last word was going to be scar.
It changed a little bit because that time Arthur Weasley was bitten by a snake, he was suppose to die but she changed her mind (because he was the only decent father you see in the series) and if i'm remembering rightly Tonks and Lupin were never suppose to die but she killed them off.

So in the end she had to rewrite it a little in order to incorporate these changes and said the last word was no longer scar. I just checked now, it's something like "his scar hadn't hurt in 19 years, all was well"

So it was never added to stop others from carrying it on, it was always the ending of the series.

[Ryojin]

Fair enough, but it doesn't change the fact that the series is still complete without it. :p

[Nudi_Alf]

Just saw the 6th movie last week.. a big dissappointment if you have read the book...

But I think that if you dont read the books the movies would be alright..
I still have my hopes up for the 7th movie because they break it into two parts ^^

[rikkublossom]

Woot.

The 7th movie is out in 3 days time. A Friday as well, which means i'm not at work. I should probably book the tickets, even though i can't afford them at all. But what the hell, you tell me whats more important, paying rent and buying a working webcam so i can talk to my lovely dearest, or watching Harry Potter.

That question doesn't even deserve an answer.

Just a quick thing. Was anyone else annoyed when they didn't even bother to change Daniel Radcliffes eyes to green. Harry was always described as having green eyes, it was important, why couldn't they keep that.
It doesn't bother me any more, but when the movies first came out it just irked me.



Edit: So the movie was awesome, one of the best so far, and the one that sticks most to the books i think.
I'll be putting spoilers around some stuff for those that haven't seen it yet (if i can remember how, just bare with me)

I love the scene when Harry and Hermione are dancing in the tent, although my sister hated it because she thought it made it look like there was some sort of romantic attraction with them.
More could have been made about Mad Eyes death, that drinking scene was missing which was a shame plus the sign post in Godrics Hollow at Harrys parents house, that was missing as well. The movie ends not long after Dobbys death when voldemort steals the elder wand.

I don't know why the movie didn't get an higher rating though. In Britain it's a 12A, meaning if you're under 12 you need to be accompanied by an adult. It should have been a straight out 12 or maybe even a 15. There was some kids watching that couldn't have been older then 5, and this movie just wasn't appropriate for that.
At one point Ron is imagining Harry and Hermione together and they're both naked (you don't see anything) and kissing. Seems a little adult to me.